Re: [Tyndale STEP - Programming] Re: Wiki + Jira

I think that's a yes, since the project would then be visible to everyone on the JIRA/wiki as they browse through issues.

On 10 March 2010 09:41, Tyndale STEP Project <tyndalestep@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear Troy

Thanks for being so helpful with this, and thanks for the warning
about pedigree.
The only part of the project I'm not sure about, wrt copyright, is
the history data, which has been derived abstracted and amalgamated
from a couple of 'standard' works which are acknowledged. I don't
know how this affects their usability. Other projects use very
similar dates, and dates by themselves surely can't have a copyright
status, can they? Colin has done a great deal to these raw dates to
turn them into a valuable and usable database for the timeline.

Troy, I'm not sure if you are implying that by using a wiki and
bug-tracker on Crosswire we are effectively saying that any other
project can help themselves to our data. Although our long-term aim
is to make this data freely available to similar projects, we'd like
the first bite on this cherry. It wouldn't do us much good to produce
the best time-line available when the same data has already gone out
and been used by half-a-dozen other timelines which are only half as
good. We'd lose most of the volume in our fanfare. Is it possible to
keep the data private till we launch?

David IB

At 00:39 10/03/2010, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>Chris,
>
>I'm all about helping you guys out. I'm excited about your work and
>look forward to contributing and using your contributions (of course
>the first thing I'll do is remove the database layer in favor of
>using our engine to store and retrieve data :) ). But it will be a
>great addition to have a timeline module for our tools!
>
>So, this to say, I'd love for your work to be fully integrated with
>other projects here at CrossWire. You're welcome to any services we
>have to offer. It would be up to you if you are willing to make
>your work known publicly as a collaboration effort with CrossWire by
>using our bug tracker and wiki, or if later would be a better time (if at all).
>
>One thing has been in the back of my mind though...
>
>I'm sure people will be interested in the data you've harvested, and
>I don't really know the pedigree of such. Is it all obtained from
>PD sources and merely reformatted, collated, and indexed? It is
>very important to retain the pedigree for all data you use, as you
>will constantly have people challenge your right to distribute the
>data. We have often had to pull modules from CrossWire because
>people claimed that one of the sources we used to produce a module
>is copyrighted by them, and thus claim our module is a derivative
>source (however ridiculous it sounds, unless we can prove we used
>genuine PD sources to produce our data, or sources who have granted
>written permission, we concede to remove data upon request). And
>then if Tyndale has permission to distribute the data, CrossWire
>would need to have permission to distribute the data as well, for
>the project to be integrated into our community.
>
>All our software is GPL v2 copyrighted.
>
>So, with all this information, do you want to use our Wiki and Bug
>Tracker and announce officially that we are collaborating
>together. I'm sure you will get quite a bit of interest on
>developers' forum at sword-devel (the volume of subscribers on
>sword-devel is about 10-1 that of jsword-devel and is mostly a superset).
>
>It's up to you guys.
>
>Looking forward to sharing in work together,
>
>Troy
>
>
>
>Chris Burrell wrote:
>>Hi Troy
>>I was wondering if you would prefer we set up a seperate JIRA/issue
>>tracking tool and wiki somewhere else on the web? or whether you'd
>>be equally willing to set those things up for STEP.
>>I guess in a sense it would be nice to keep everything in the same
>>place (my account on crosswire.org <http://crosswire.org> as an
>>integration server + subversion repository), but there are other
>>alternatives. Whatever happens, I don't want to be creating extra
>>admin tasks or pile on a ton of extra work!
>>And also, I'm keen to avoid distracting people from development on
>>JSword or Sword. So in that respect at least perhaps it's best to
>>set it up elsewhere.
>>Do let me know what you think.
>>In Christ,
>>Chris

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